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TheOni · Mar 02, 2008, 03:05 AM // 03:05

I have played before infact i think i have posted questions here before i can't remember. I played a little back in early 2007 mainly in pvp and now i've come back but i want to do some PVE content.

I looked at the FAQ section of this forum but i didn't see the answer i was looking for. Well i have leveled a Ritualist to level 20 with a wiki build called WoQ support ritualist. Imo this doesn't seem to be that helpful. I keep WoQ up on my healer henchies and a lot of times we still seem to die pretty easy. I put my warmongers and splinter on my warrior hero that seems to be pretty good. My WoQ support isn't my style or i just suck i don't know. I love the way the ritualist look and all and i figured being that sort of support would help get a group but i don't really see many people asking for groups for things except for extremely hard missions like gate of madness O_o. Should i reroll something else?

Also for a person who has just started pve i can't even afford my highest armor much less runes for me and my heros and with the gold being split between 8 people even if 7 of them are computers that's barely anything at all. Should i have looked up a farming build for my first character? Also when i find stuff i don't really know what will sell as far as the mods go. I don't know how to tell if something is "perfect" or what mods will actually sell. I hear insightful staff heads might sell for a little bit. I see people listing stuff that say 15^50 or 20/20 i don't know what that means can someone please explain or direct me to a sight that explains those type of things.

jbcf05 · Mar 02, 2008, 03:14 AM // 03:14

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Originally Posted by TheOni

direct me to a sight that explains those type of things.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page

Thats a good site. Bookmark it.

Also if your having trouble with builds check here:

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page

and

http://gw.gamependium.com/tools/builds/

Songbringer · Mar 02, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Categ...ade_components

This will tell you all the modifications you can put on weapons and what a perfect ones stats are.

Only worry about runeing out yourself if you can't afford to do you heroes at this time. As you do quests and play through the storyline you will get money for max armor. Just get the cheap armor. You don't need the most exspensive set. Just the set with the highest AL your class can use.

Found here

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Armor click your class in the list (armor by profession)
The places max armor can be found in game are(the cheap sets of it) Prophecies-Droknar's Forge. Factions-Kanieng Center. Nightfall-Consulate Docks.

You said you were a rit so here is a list of collector weapons you can get for the rit. They are cheaper then buying a decent one off of a player.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/List_...lector_weapons

Here is a huge composition of builds for every class. Test some out to see what you are comfortable with.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Category...ing_PvE_builds

Any other questions pm me in game at Melony Songbringer because I probably won't look back at this thread. BUT who knows I might.

Edit: What do you know I came back

. Anyway I was looking around my heroes and spare items for anything that could help you. I found a Ritual Lord Staff that you can have if you would like. I don't need it. This is what it looks like/its stats http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ritual_Lord%27s_Staff

2nd Edit: Do missions and get in groups going for the masters reward. You get the most gold possible upon completion of the mission when it is completed in masters. Even if it is only a couple hundred more it is worth it when you need a little bit extra cash. O and Yes you should look at this build and see if you can become good at it allowing you to farm ectos and netting you a little cash flow(not nearly what it used to be when doing this farm). http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Rt/Me_Vengeful_Farmer

There are tons of varients to this build to make it be able to be used in different situations. You want to scroll down to the UW Solo Varient. However these are some of the other versions.
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Rt..._Spirit_Bonder
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Rt...Crawler_Farmer
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Rt..._Vengeful_Veil

Hope those builds helped.

Santa Is Leet · Mar 02, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24

well it seems you've already been to guildwiki....my advice is to go back there to get items explained and builds and such(btw the build site pvx others have listed is linked too from guildwiki) that sites been around longer and personally i like it better.

TheOni · Mar 02, 2008, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Thanks a lot for all the info, i will read all the sites and see what all i can learn. That staff is way better than the one im using. I got mine from a weapon guy because i thought getting a better weapon would be better than upgrading my armor since im always in the backline ( which was a mistake lol) the weapon doesn't do hardly any damage like 6-9 unless the mob is way below my level.

Songbringer · Mar 02, 2008, 03:55 AM // 03:55

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Originally Posted by TheOni

Thanks a lot for all the info, i will read all the sites and see what all i can learn. That staff is way better than the one im using. I got mine from a weapon guy because i thought getting a better weapon would be better than upgrading my armor since im always in the backline ( which was a mistake lol) the weapon doesn't do hardly any damage like 6-9 unless the mob is way below my level.

AI is programmed to go for the guy with lowest armor in the aggro bubble. Unless they are stuck they will head for you 99% of the time.

joshuarodger · Mar 02, 2008, 04:29 AM // 04:29

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ght=remains+of
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ght=remains+of

if you have NF and have beaten the game, which i'm assuming since you're lvl 20 and have heroes, a good easy farm is the desolation wurm farming. it's commonly called the sunspear/lightbringer (SS/LB) point farm. a full run in hard mode takes about 20 minutes and i could usually make anywhere from 2-5k per run after i sold everything to the merchant. not only that but you can also pick up some decent gold weapons with good mods that can be sold in game to players for good cash or that you can keep for yourself and your heroes. when you're in the wurm, you're practically indestructible and you can make the run with just yourself and 4 heroes/henchies. the first link is a guide on using the wurm and the challenge mission for remains of sahlahja (however you spell it). you can ignore the advice on the challenge mission and just use the link for advice on using your wurm. the second link is for pointers on the SS/LB run itself.

If you don't have NF and you got your heroes from GWEN you may want to do some dungeons in order to get loot from the end chests to sell or use for yourself.

strcpy · Mar 02, 2008, 07:04 AM // 07:04

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Originally Posted by TheOni

I looked at the FAQ section of this forum but i didn't see the answer i was looking for. Well i have leveled a Ritualist to level 20 with a wiki build called WoQ support ritualist.

Personally I'm not much of a support player - never really been very good at it - but it seems as if you need to also focus on the non-healers in your party. Rarely is recharge the big issue in a GW monk healing but is a HUGE difference in the damage dealers. While healing is nice and needed, dead enemies don't do damage (point being made is do not focus on only one single aspect as the game is designed around balancing both aspects). That may help, it may not.

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I love the way the ritualist look and all and i figured being that sort of support would help get a group but i don't really see many people asking for groups for things except for extremely hard missions like gate of madness O_o. Should i reroll something else?

For just that issue? No - that is simply because most PUG's suck and the H/H are MUCH better. For the harder missions people are willing to go through many horrid groups for that one group that just meshes.

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Also for a person who has just started pve i can't even afford my highest armor much less runes for me and my heros and with the gold being split between 8 people even if 7 of them are computers that's barely anything at all.

You should only be worrying with yourself, the game (even Nightfall) is balanced around completing with the hench - they have no runes, terrible armor, and terrible weapons. As such you should *only* spend when you have the gold and only on the ones you use the most.

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I got mine from a weapon guy because i thought getting a better weapon would be better than upgrading my armor since im always in the backline ( which was a mistake lol) the weapon doesn't do hardly any damage like 6-9 unless the mob is way below my level.

As a caster your weapon is primarily used for it's mods, not it's damage. Worry with energy given, cast/recharge times, and things like armor bonuses and health bonuses.

TheOni · Mar 02, 2008, 08:23 AM // 08:23

Thanks again for all the info.

Quote:

if you have NF and have beaten the game, which i'm assuming since you're lvl 20 and have heroes, a good easy farm is the desolation wurm farming. it's commonly called the sunspear/lightbringer (SS/LB) point farm. a full run in hard mode takes about 20 minutes and i could usually make anywhere from 2-5k per run after i sold everything to the merchant.

I haven't beat the game i've only gotten to the gate of madness which is were i am stuck. Shiro is the devil. I get him to about 20% then he goes on a rampage and kills everyone in my party -.- I still decided to run through with the worms though and i still made a decent ammount of money and even got a few purples. Hopefully tomorrow ill be able to try hardmode if i can get through this gate of madness. I read somewhere that mission is probably one of the hardest in the entire game.

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Personally I'm not much of a support player - never really been very good at it - but it seems as if you need to also focus on the non-healers in your party. Rarely is recharge the big issue in a GW monk healing but is a HUGE difference in the damage dealers. While healing is nice and needed, dead enemies don't do damage (point being made is do not focus on only one single aspect as the game is designed around balancing both aspects). That may help, it may not

You know i never really though about using WoQ on the dmg dealers i was just so focused on the healers lol.

gremlin · Mar 02, 2008, 09:24 AM // 09:24

Don't think you should reroll your current character but you should certainly use the other character slots.

Even if you just do the start island missions it will give you access to the couple of reusable treasure chests that drop gold items and recharge monthly.
That's 2 chests per character per month get further into nightfall and there are more chests.

Once you get to the wurm missions you can easily aquire gold without too much effort, certainly enough to equip with armour weapons and skills.

At least these will equip your heroes or can be sold, also doing the missions with the other characters will boost gold which you can use on the prime character/team.

If you have factions as well you can jump across to there and do the easy kaining center missions this is a great way to level up heroes as 2k to 3k missions abound.

TheOni · Mar 02, 2008, 11:12 AM // 11:12

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Even if you just do the start island missions it will give you access to the couple of reusable treasure chests that drop gold items and recharge monthly.
That's 2 chests per character per month get further into nightfall and there are more chests

Hmm i don't think i noticed anything like that while leveling up other than the chest that require zone specific keys and those hardly ever seemed to drop orange. They mostly had purples.

I was however considering making a new character. I've been looking at all the different builds at the pvx site. I was thinking about trying a "55 Monk" also since all skills require prophecies that will give me a chance to see that story line. Probably won't beat it either though because i like Nightfall heros more than henchmen. That's also why i left factions with my ritualist. Considering where the elite spell and where blessed signet is im guessing i'd have to be pretty far into the game to be able to be a full 55 monk.

Since that will be so close to the end how should i level. There's really no "use this for leveling" guides on the wiki's that i've found. I was thinking either all smiting or would healing be better for me.

Ill most likely keep farming with those worms for a while so that i can afford the kind of stuff i need to be a 55 monk.

gremlin · Mar 02, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by TheOni

Hmm i don't think i noticed anything like that while leveling up other than the chest that require zone specific keys and those hardly ever seemed to drop orange. They mostly had purples.

There are treasure chests and buried treasure etc all over nightfall these need no keys at all and as I say they recharge after a month or so.

Some say they drop purples after a while if overused, have opened mine quite a few times so far and it hasn't happened yet.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Treasure

Quaker · Mar 02, 2008, 04:39 PM // 16:39

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Originally Posted by TheOni

Also when i find stuff i don't really know what will sell as far as the mods go. I don't know how to tell if something is "perfect" or what mods will actually sell. I hear insightful staff heads might sell for a little bit. I see people listing stuff that say 15^50 or 20/20 i don't know what that means can someone please explain or direct me to a sight that explains those type of things.

As people have suggested, visit one of the wikis to find out what mods are available. Also visit the buy/sell forums on here (Ventari's Corner) and the Guru Auction site to get an idea of what things are worth.

15^50 is shorthand for "Damage +15% while health is above 50%" which is a "base mod" or inscription.

20/20 is shorthand for "Armor penetration +20% (Chance 20%)" - Sundering.

There are places/sites that will define the "lingo" but I'm not sure where at the moment.

Songbringer · Mar 02, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

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Originally Posted by Quaker

There are places/sites that will define the "lingo" but I'm not sure where at the moment.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Categ...official_terms

The "Lingo"

Tick Tock Venah · Mar 02, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37

If you don't like doing a support rit, don't. Ritualists are incredibly versatile. My personal favourite use is as a minion master, with max spawining power, [skill]Explosive Growth[/skill], [skill]Boon of creation[/skill] and [skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill]. Sometimes I also go as a splinter barrager (using the ranger elite Barrage, using runes to max channeling for maximum effectiveness with
[skill]Splinter Weapon[/skill]

Mar 02, 2008, 03:05 AM // 03:05	#1
TheOni Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Feb 2007	Complete Newbie I have played before infact i think i have posted questions here before i can't remember. I played a little back in early 2007 mainly in pvp and now i've come back but i want to do some PVE content. I looked at the FAQ section of this forum but i didn't see the answer i was looking for. Well i have leveled a Ritualist to level 20 with a wiki build called WoQ support ritualist. Imo this doesn't seem to be that helpful. I keep WoQ up on my healer henchies and a lot of times we still seem to die pretty easy. I put my warmongers and splinter on my warrior hero that seems to be pretty good. My WoQ support isn't my style or i just suck i don't know. I love the way the ritualist look and all and i figured being that sort of support would help get a group but i don't really see many people asking for groups for things except for extremely hard missions like gate of madness O_o. Should i reroll something else? Also for a person who has just started pve i can't even afford my highest armor much less runes for me and my heros and with the gold being split between 8 people even if 7 of them are computers that's barely anything at all. Should i have looked up a farming build for my first character? Also when i find stuff i don't really know what will sell as far as the mods go. I don't know how to tell if something is "perfect" or what mods will actually sell. I hear insightful staff heads might sell for a little bit. I see people listing stuff that say 15^50 or 20/20 i don't know what that means can someone please explain or direct me to a sight that explains those type of things.

Mar 02, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20	#3
Songbringer Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: EastCoast Profession: E/Me	http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Categ...ade_components This will tell you all the modifications you can put on weapons and what a perfect ones stats are. Only worry about runeing out yourself if you can't afford to do you heroes at this time. As you do quests and play through the storyline you will get money for max armor. Just get the cheap armor. You don't need the most exspensive set. Just the set with the highest AL your class can use. Found here http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Armor click your class in the list (armor by profession) The places max armor can be found in game are(the cheap sets of it) Prophecies-Droknar's Forge. Factions-Kanieng Center. Nightfall-Consulate Docks. You said you were a rit so here is a list of collector weapons you can get for the rit. They are cheaper then buying a decent one off of a player. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/List_...lector_weapons Here is a huge composition of builds for every class. Test some out to see what you are comfortable with. http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Category...ing_PvE_builds Any other questions pm me in game at Melony Songbringer because I probably won't look back at this thread. BUT who knows I might. Edit: What do you know I came back . Anyway I was looking around my heroes and spare items for anything that could help you. I found a Ritual Lord Staff that you can have if you would like. I don't need it. This is what it looks like/its stats http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ritual_Lord%27s_Staff 2nd Edit: Do missions and get in groups going for the masters reward. You get the most gold possible upon completion of the mission when it is completed in masters. Even if it is only a couple hundred more it is worth it when you need a little bit extra cash. O and Yes you should look at this build and see if you can become good at it allowing you to farm ectos and netting you a little cash flow(not nearly what it used to be when doing this farm). http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Rt/Me_Vengeful_Farmer There are tons of varients to this build to make it be able to be used in different situations. You want to scroll down to the UW Solo Varient. However these are some of the other versions. http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Rt..._Spirit_Bonder http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Rt...Crawler_Farmer http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Rt..._Vengeful_Veil Hope those builds helped. Last edited by Songbringer; Mar 02, 2008 at 03:35 AM // 03:35..

Mar 02, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24	#4
Santa Is Leet Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2007 Profession: Mo/Me	well it seems you've already been to guildwiki....my advice is to go back there to get items explained and builds and such(btw the build site pvx others have listed is linked too from guildwiki) that sites been around longer and personally i like it better. Last edited by Santa Is Leet; Mar 02, 2008 at 03:28 AM // 03:28..

Mar 02, 2008, 03:30 AM // 03:30	#5
TheOni Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Feb 2007	Thanks a lot for all the info, i will read all the sites and see what all i can learn. That staff is way better than the one im using. I got mine from a weapon guy because i thought getting a better weapon would be better than upgrading my armor since im always in the backline ( which was a mistake lol) the weapon doesn't do hardly any damage like 6-9 unless the mob is way below my level.

Mar 02, 2008, 04:29 AM // 04:29	#7
joshuarodger Unbanned Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly Profession: Mo/	http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ght=remains+of http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ght=remains+of if you have NF and have beaten the game, which i'm assuming since you're lvl 20 and have heroes, a good easy farm is the desolation wurm farming. it's commonly called the sunspear/lightbringer (SS/LB) point farm. a full run in hard mode takes about 20 minutes and i could usually make anywhere from 2-5k per run after i sold everything to the merchant. not only that but you can also pick up some decent gold weapons with good mods that can be sold in game to players for good cash or that you can keep for yourself and your heroes. when you're in the wurm, you're practically indestructible and you can make the run with just yourself and 4 heroes/henchies. the first link is a guide on using the wurm and the challenge mission for remains of sahlahja (however you spell it). you can ignore the advice on the challenge mission and just use the link for advice on using your wurm. the second link is for pointers on the SS/LB run itself. If you don't have NF and you got your heroes from GWEN you may want to do some dungeons in order to get loot from the end chests to sell or use for yourself.

Mar 02, 2008, 09:24 AM // 09:24	#10
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	Don't think you should reroll your current character but you should certainly use the other character slots. Even if you just do the start island missions it will give you access to the couple of reusable treasure chests that drop gold items and recharge monthly. That's 2 chests per character per month get further into nightfall and there are more chests. Once you get to the wurm missions you can easily aquire gold without too much effort, certainly enough to equip with armour weapons and skills. At least these will equip your heroes or can be sold, also doing the missions with the other characters will boost gold which you can use on the prime character/team. If you have factions as well you can jump across to there and do the easy kaining center missions this is a great way to level up heroes as 2k to 3k missions abound.

Mar 02, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37	#15
Tick Tock Venah Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Explorers of Evelon Profession: Rt/	If you don't like doing a support rit, don't. Ritualists are incredibly versatile. My personal favourite use is as a minion master, with max spawining power, [skill]Explosive Growth[/skill], [skill]Boon of creation[/skill] and [skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill]. Sometimes I also go as a splinter barrager (using the ranger elite Barrage, using runes to max channeling for maximum effectiveness with [skill]Splinter Weapon[/skill]